Safety Lessons and Table
Saws
To the Editor:
I have been a fire medic for 27 years and work part-time
building custom homes, so I often view articles on safety with
a dark sense of humor. I read the article in JLC
("Safety
Lessons," 8/03) and plan to pass on the story of the trench
rescue to our area special rescue teams. I also read JLC's
"disclaimer" about relying on "actual job-site photos," which I
appreciate because I enjoy seeing how others set up.
This brings me to my point. After reading the safety article,
I turned the page to the picture introducing the portable table
saw review. Tell me how many concrete blocks are sitting on the
other end of those 2x10s. Or maybe it's the rest of the crew
taking a coffee break every time he has to make a cut? Sixty
pounds of table saw cantilevered out 4 feet from a plastic
sawhorse?
I'd like to see the video of what happened when coffee break
was over. It would be great to watch that teeter-totter send
everything a-flying. Have you ever seen the Red Green show when
he sent the table saw running out of the room upside down
propelled on its spinning blade?
Now let's go back and talk about safety lessons.
Dave Linn
Chardon, Ohio
Fire Protection for Foam
To the Editor:
Your article on
spray-foam
insulation (8/03) did not speak to code requirements
dealing with encapsulation of foam by sheetrock or other
approved materials, even in attics and crawlspaces. All foam
insulation is not created equal. Some of it has been tested and
approved for installation without a thermal barrier, but many
kinds have not been. As the horrible events at the Great White
concert in Rhode Island demonstrated, certain types of foam
produce extremely toxic products of combustion.
Unfortunately, we have encountered a number of spray-foam
insulation contractors who are not prepared to provide
documentation that their foam does not have to be encapsulated.
They have sold this material to home builders and installed it
without seeking prior approval from the building official. I
would caution general contractors to make sure you gain the
approval of your local building official before insulating a
house with spray foam.
Joe Basilone
Chief Building Inspector
James City County, Va.
Deck Ledger Accounting
To the Editor:
I enjoy reading articles like
"Attaching Deck
Ledgers" (8/03) and am very interested in the engineering
behind building. I also want to commend your magazine for
publishing meaningful articles, both on technical and business
issues. However, I was horribly dismayed with this article. My
company builds 40 to 50 decks per year, and our ledgers are
attached with two 1/2x4-inch lag screws per 16 inches. This is
based on my own research of applicable codes, as well as shear
and pullout values of fasteners. This is also superior to all
local contractors I've seen, who use one lag bolt every 16
inches, if lags are used at all. But in 20 years, I haven't
heard of a deck ledger failing in my immediate area. This
doesn't mean much, other than that in the real world nails
alone can and do hold a ledger up for years (not that this
isn't shoddy work).
On a 16-foot joist span, the authors recommend a lag screw
every 5.4 inches directly to the band or a 1/2-inch bolt every
2.4 inches. Are they kidding? That is "ridiculously close," as
the article states. On a 20-foot-wide deck, that's 100 hex
bolts — again, laughable and ridiculous.
Come on. It would be just great if some know-it-all inspector
with no real-world experience got ahold of your article and
decided to implement your ridiculous and impossible-to-do
suggestions. I'm glad you at JLC took on this issue, but don't
any carpenters proofread these things?
Kyle Kazak
Expert Construction
Cleveland, Ohio
Don Jackson responds: Thanks for your letter. Yes,
carpenters do read this stuff before it goes out the door. We
make every attempt to present details that can be practically
and affordably executed in the field in the normal course of
construction. At the same time, we can't ignore the code, and
that's what this article is about — using
ledger-to-band-joist connections that can carry the design
loads.
The examples you mention — a lag screw every 5.4
inches (Detail 1) vs. a bolt every 2.4 inches (Detail 3)
— represent two very different conditions. The lag
screw schedule in Detail 1 is right out of the book —
the NDS, which the International Residential Code
cites
as the wood structural design guide to be used for details not
found in the code itself. Like it or not, that bolting schedule
is accurate for the loads involved. Detail 3 shows a drainage
space and a layer of 1/2-inch sheathing (or an inch of foam
sheathing) between the ledger and the band joist —
essentially cantilevering the bolt, which greatly reduces the
load it can carry without bending. As the article points out,
this is definitely not a carpenter-friendly bolting schedule.
On the other hand, the numbers are correct, given available
design methods.
The good news is that there is another way to meet code
besides design, and that is to use tested performance-based
details. Authors Frank Woeste and Joe Loferski recognized the
limits of the design-based fastener schedules and have
undertaken tests of the various ledger attachment details in
the wood science lab at Virginia Tech. We hope to be able to
publish the results soon.
Floating Deck Better
To the Editor:
I agree that attaching ledger boards
("Attaching Deck
Ledgers," 8/03) directly to the rim joist by whatever means
— nails, lags, or through-bolts — creates a
recipe for disaster. If you attach a ledger to a rim joist, you
will have water infiltration and leaks over time. But
researchers have no business giving advice on how to attach
ledger boards. Detail 4 is a prime example: Most new
foundations should have proper drainage systems to funnel water
away from the foundation, not create more ways for water to
damage the foundation walls. Through-bolting into your
foundation? Burying 6x6 PT wood? And a 3-foot 6-inch minimum
depth to the top of the footing? All counties have local
building codes; check with yours for proper depth. Never bury
any wood product in the ground; there are many companies out
there that make concrete-to-wood connectors just for that
purpose.
As a carpenter for over 20 years, I have built many a deck,
always trying to find ways of improving on design and function.
The solution is simple: Create a "floating" deck. Basically,
mimic the outside girder 12 to 24 inches away from the
foundation, making sure to leave room for your decking to tuck
under the siding. If you are in an area that gets a lot of rain
or snow, you might also want to consider adding pitch away from
the house.
Gregory Sloane
South Lake Tahoe, Calif.
Don Jackson responds: The freestanding deck is a great
idea, as long as the posts are braced against lateral swaying
movement. That's the intent of the 3-foot 6-inch embedment of
the post shown in Detail 4. (Frost depth is another issue.) As
the deck gets higher, the embedment would need to get deeper,
or some other kind of x-bracing would be needed.
Not everyone would agree with your opinion on burying
pressure-treated wood. I recently pulled out some deck posts
that had been underground for 15 years and had only minor
surface decay. The label indicating .60 retention, which code
requires, was still stapled to the uncut bottom end. Also,
there are many large post-frame buildings that have had posts
in the ground for decades. Still, I appreciate your caution and
agree that if you can keep the wood out of the ground, why not
do it? Just don't overlook the lateral bracing.